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Post by Irfan on Jun 13, 2007 8:48:32 GMT -5
Wanted to see players opinions on whether DC should adopt Chicago style rules pertaining to downfield blocking. Note: You have to be registered user and logged in to be able to vote.
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Post by adeel on Jun 13, 2007 17:27:30 GMT -5
To do Downfield blocking, should we increase the players to 8 on 8?
Adeel
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bigd
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Post by bigd on Jun 14, 2007 9:24:53 GMT -5
Downfield blocking is totally worth it ppl. We've have done it in every Chicago tourny whether it be IPF Chicago or other leagues. There have been very min. injuries and an 8 man squad would be nice. I also incourage kickoffs (instead of taking it at a designated yard line) and blocking during punts. But those are just ideas Im throwing out there.
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Post by vinsanity on Jun 15, 2007 19:49:18 GMT -5
I am totally for downfield blocking. It feels like you are actually playing football then. Without downfield blocking, IPF is more like a 7 on 7 drill. Sure the lines add some pressure here and there, but when you add a consistant running game, it adds a whole new element to the game. As far as kickoffs and punts go, I don't think kickoffs should be added and I don't think there should be blocking on punts because I could see most injuries coming from those two kinds of plays alone (blocks in the back, blindside hits, etc.).
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Post by nomi on Jun 18, 2007 15:36:11 GMT -5
Whats up fellas, hope everyone is well. I know I am going to catch some heat for this but I say no to down field blocking. For one I thing the official flag football standards are no down field blocking? The game is just much funner with guys having to make plays based on athletic ability and skills. Down field blockers are just road blocks or slow guys who cant keep up with us young kids.
I think Adeel mentioned 8 on 8? I would vote against that too for pretty much the same reason. The field is small enough with 7 on 7 so no need to add 2 more guys. The game is designed to showcase athleticism, speed, and skill. Lets keep it that way.
Anyhow, thats just my two cents. If we do go full contact then know this, Only One will start preping by requiring the entire team to go on the Yasser Chema workout plan.
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Post by saadi80 on Jun 18, 2007 20:19:23 GMT -5
I'm with Nomi on this one, no downfield blocking for the DC tournament. Last year, someone (I think TN) mentioned something about a triple crown, where everyone would have to adjust their game plan according to the hosting cities rules (DC - no downfield blocking, TN/ATL - no blocking, Chi - downfield blocking). I think we should stick with this. If we set the tournament dates at least 6 weeks to two months in advance, it will give teams ample opportunity to prepare, as well as take care of administrative stuff. Hopefully if ATL and Chicago can set their tournament dates a little in advance, we will have a better turnout next time around.
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Post by outsiders32 on Jun 19, 2007 8:56:33 GMT -5
Nomi, Since flag football is 20 yard first downs, teams are not in position to run very often. Unless Barry Sanders is in the backfield no team is going to average 7 yards per carry. Downfield blocking happens once every 5-6 plays, but the threat keeps teams honest. Even with downfield blocking we did not have one rushing TD. On our team our offensive lineman are our most skilled players, and they were not allowed the opportunity to showcase their talents. Anyone who thinks it doesn't take skill to be an offensive lineman try lining up across from Ronnie or Robby for a game. As far as 7 on 7 or 8 on 8; we went 8 on 8 and had a 45 yard wide field. I think DC was around 35 yards wide. Personally, I feel the wider the field the better.
Gautam
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Post by pakman0101 on Jun 19, 2007 14:42:31 GMT -5
Yea I agree with Chitown, the people that are against blocking I just dont understand y i think its just an excuse cuz people dont want to get "hurt" or they just dont like a little contact. I think that having no contact is not right for the bigger guys who love to block, it takes away from there game just cuz some of the slimmer fast guys are a little "afraid" of contact, its been a problem in the Desi community for years . Football is Football regardless of how you want to look at it, sure the rules change for "flag football", for the Chicago guys im sorry that you have to hear it over and over about how people dont want to do blocking and im sure ur thinking wow, these guys are sissies, well were not all like that there are some people that want down field blocking that are not from chicago and D.C. Crime has your back on that one. Dowfield blocking is where its at, either bring your tuff physical game or just stay at home with your wifies guys its all good Shahzad/Khalil D.C. Crime
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Post by tariq on Jun 19, 2007 22:05:36 GMT -5
Blocking is not about big guys bull dozing people over. Steve smith is a great blocker. If you just put yourself in front of someone and slow them down that can be enough for the ball carrier to break open. FYI I am the worst blocker.....
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Post by Irfan on Jun 20, 2007 8:14:21 GMT -5
This is turning into an interesting debate. Keep up the postings and lets see where this goes.
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Post by nomi on Jun 20, 2007 11:26:19 GMT -5
Look it, its not about being scared or a sissie its about the way he game is played. I guess I may have over estimated the use of running plays if the rules allowed down-field blocking. Guatam, you're right, running plays are a way to keep the D honest I guess since I have not played in a full contact flag football league before I really cant speak to how it will affect the way teams play so I will defer to those of you who have. I know Siddique played in Chicago and loved it so it cant be all that bad.
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Post by siddique on Jun 21, 2007 11:13:26 GMT -5
Yeah I had fun with it in Chicago and I have been playing in full contact flag leagues for about 8 years now. Thats how the rules are everywhere. In fact, they even have blocking on kickoffs, ints, punts and thats where the most damage is done. The leagues I play on have real kicks for extra points and field goals. That would be pretty fun as well and would add another element where all teams would need someone who can kick. Nomi, Im sure you will love the rules, it'll definitely help our squad the way we are built. Only 1 is made for this type of game. I didnt see any team in Chicago that would be able to run at will if we used these rules. Its more or less for keeping defenses off balance. Siddique
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Post by seinna1 on Jun 22, 2007 8:35:57 GMT -5
I would like to say full-contact all the way, like Siddique I have been playin in full contact leagues for the past 3 years now, in the league that I play in there is also full contact on kickoffs, punts, interceptions basically everything. I think that it is the closest thing to real football without pads that you can get, as long as there are not grimy people out there that are looking to hurt others its a lot of fun, way more fun that non-blocking
Husain
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Post by Irfan on Jun 22, 2007 8:41:17 GMT -5
I would like to say full-contact all the way, like Siddique I have been playin in full contact leagues for the past 3 years now, in the league that I play in there is also full contact on kickoffs, punts, interceptions basically everything. I think that it is the closest thing to real football without pads that you can get, as long as there are not grimy people out there that are looking to hurt others its a lot of fun, way more fun that non-blocking Husain Husain, Aren't you the one that got your arm broken in a full contact league??
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Post by seinna1 on Jun 22, 2007 10:20:28 GMT -5
yea but im a straight man, a hairy, beard having, non girly man that wouldnt let something like that stop me from playin full contact football , no but all jokes aside that is what i was saying, i got clipped from behind by someone who was grimy, and i was also in a 10 grand tournament with guys from the city and ghetto that quite honestly didnt care about breaking someones arm because they wanted that money so that is how that went down, i wouldnt expect that from an indo pak tourny, i honestly dont think that there is anyone that is involved in this tourny that actually would want to hurt someone, its very easy to hurt someone badly in contact, all u got to do is hit em hard when there not looking especially from the back, so i still stand by full contact, heck i would play tackle if that was allowed, cant stop wont stop baby!!
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